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A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/12/2010 1:10:58 PM
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Lisa McKay considers herself an unlikely preacher's wife. Download a chapter here : You Can Still Wear Cute Shoes There is a discussion of her book here : Blog
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RE: A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/12/2010 7:22:20 PM
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On any given Sunday (or other Services) my wife is more apt to end up without shoes by the time the praise and worship is over, that with them. Thanks RC
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RE: A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/18/2010 12:51:01 PM
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Very good! Thanks for sharing that! I'm not a pastor's wife but I have many friends who are. I am going to have to share this with them :)
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RE: A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/19/2010 11:21:07 AM
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I like the premise of the book, but I haven't read it through, so I'm not sure what I think just yet. The title is catchy, but imo still too clickish...I'll have to read more.
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RE: A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/19/2010 11:49:44 AM
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I thought the blog option to discuss the book would be interesting.
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RE: A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/19/2010 1:34:27 PM
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Ok...I will go check that out.
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RE: A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/22/2010 12:53:06 AM
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A pastors wife still wear cute shoes? Ive not read the book, but Im willing to guess this is another bit of trite silliness. No one cares about the pastors wifes shoes. No pastors wife asks permission to buy what shoes she likes anymore than the pastor asks what color sheets to buy or what kind of jeans to wear. These kind of books dont tell women anything they dont already know. So why read them? Because Im willing to guess that this pastors wife has a fan club and her fan base like the justifications for 'shopping for princesses' and having cute shoes while doing it. Methinks this is more of an excursion into why its important to spend money on what makes a woman feel good, look good and then not feel guilty about it. No book need be written about that. That is done everyday, all day by millions of women. A book on justifying why a Christian woman should imitate the godless women in our culture is completely unnecessary. Think for a moment, no unsaved women are attracted to Jesus Christ because Christian women can buy cute shoes. No godless women are convicted by Christian women because they can pamper themselves and have both church and "cuteness" too. Imitating the world doesnt draw the unsaved woman to Christ, she already has cute shoes, cute dresses and nice hair. What does a Christian woman need to be told in a book to do in order for thier lives to be 'pleasurable'? I submit to you women need something far greater and more beautiful than cute shoes and clothes to make them passionate about Jesus Christ, an ungodly women needs something far more diverse from 'cultural patterns' they know very well to turn their heads toward Christ. Im not against cute shoes, clothes or jewelery, Im against dumb Christian-imitating-the-world books that innoculate Christian women with justifications to 'love the world' and further provide no example of what it means to love, serve and sacrifice for Jesus. Pastors wife or not, I dont see the need of such information. John
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RE: A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/22/2010 1:54:55 AM
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ORIGINAL: Gloryandgrace A pastors wife still wear cute shoes? Ive not read the book, but Im willing to guess this is another bit of trite silliness. No one cares about the pastors wifes shoes. No pastors wife asks permission to buy what shoes she likes anymore than the pastor asks what color sheets to buy or what kind of jeans to wear. These kind of books dont tell women anything they dont already know. So why read them? Because Im willing to guess that this pastors wife has a fan club and her fan base like the justifications for 'shopping for princesses' and having cute shoes while doing it. Methinks this is more of an excursion into why its important to spend money on what makes a woman feel good, look good and then not feel guilty about it. No book need be written about that. That is done everyday, all day by millions of women. A book on justifying why a Christian woman should imitate the godless women in our culture is completely unnecessary. Think for a moment, no unsaved women are attracted to Jesus Christ because Christian women can buy cute shoes. No godless women are convicted by Christian women because they can pamper themselves and have both church and "cuteness" too. Imitating the world doesnt draw the unsaved woman to Christ, she already has cute shoes, cute dresses and nice hair. What does a Christian woman need to be told in a book to do in order for thier lives to be 'pleasurable'? I submit to you women need something far greater and more beautiful than cute shoes and clothes to make them passionate about Jesus Christ, an ungodly women needs something far more diverse from 'cultural patterns' they know very well to turn their heads toward Christ. Im not against cute shoes, clothes or jewelery, Im against dumb Christian-imitating-the-world books that innoculate Christian women with justifications to 'love the world' and further provide no example of what it means to love, serve and sacrifice for Jesus. Pastors wife or not, I dont see the need of such information. John I didn't download the excerpt, but from what I could tell from the page the link goes to, the book is about dealing with the unrealistic, unbiblical expectations that some congregants have on pastors' wives ... and sadly, sometimes the pastors' wives have on themselves. You may think some of it is silly, Gloryandgrace... and any message about pampering themselves might just be that: silly... but any parts of the book that help women in ministry break down the unrealistic images they have of others and of themselves would be at least a bit helpful. Sometimes men do not understand the pressures that women "feel" from others or place on themselves... And yes, it's "silly" that women do that. But it's something we struggle with. And the fact that we do have these feelings isn't silly. It's reality. I think the title of the book points to that idea that some have ---> that pastors' wives aren't supposed to have nice, pretty things... that their sacrifices must appear a certain way and take certain forms. That sort of legalism isn't a help in ministry; it's a millstone that women do not need. I doubt that the book really is saying, "Yes, go buy cute shoes. You need to have cute shoes."
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RE: A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/22/2010 7:09:01 AM
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Simple, yes.
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RE: A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/22/2010 8:58:19 PM
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I didn't download the excerpt, but from what I could tell from the page the link goes to, the book is about dealing with the unrealistic, unbiblical expectations that some congregants have on pastors' wives ... and sadly, sometimes the pastors' wives have on themselves. You may think some of it is silly, Gloryandgrace... and any message about pampering themselves might just be that: silly... but any parts of the book that help women in ministry break down the unrealistic images they have of others and of themselves would be at least a bit helpful. Sometimes men do not understand the pressures that women "feel" from others or place on themselves... And yes, it's "silly" that women do that. But it's something we struggle with. And the fact that we do have these feelings isn't silly. It's reality. I think the title of the book points to that idea that some have ---> that pastors' wives aren't supposed to have nice, pretty things... that their sacrifices must appear a certain way and take certain forms. That sort of legalism isn't a help in ministry; it's a millstone that women do not need. I doubt that the book really is saying, "Yes, go buy cute shoes. You need to have cute shoes." Hi Elena: I went to Lisa's website and looked at her blog and looked at some articles. Lisa is a stunning brunette who seems well educated and an excellent communicator. This is my concern; that her beauty, her financial capabilities and sense of style depict what it is to be an affluent pastors wife. No matter what she teaches, it will be hard for any woman Christian or not to 'sacrifice' for Jesus Christ. Why? Because she will have women wanting what he has and wanting to be like her. But, not the "Christ-in-her" but the outward. Not sacrifice but affluence. You read what I said, Im not against cute shoes..... so Im not. Im not in the slightest way trying to enforce holiness buns and long dresses with no make-up. This is what the women should shoot for.. 1Pe 3:3 Do not let your adorning be external--the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear-- 1Pe 3:4 but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious. 1Pe 3:5 For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands, Now, Im only remarking about this kind mindset as it appears from the blog and the website. I in no way want to disparage Lisa or her ministry for Christ. Lastly, its a terrible shame that women (just like men) are so concerned with outward appearances that stupid judgments are put upon them, pastors wives are gossiped about or slandered because of shoes. This terrible condition of sinfulness that plagues a woman so badly that a book has to be written to help them past feeling guilty over cute shoes...or whatever. John
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RE: A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/22/2010 9:19:36 PM
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Lisa is a stunning brunette who seems well educated and an excellent communicator. This is my concern; that her beauty, her financial capabilities and sense of style depict what it is to be an affluent pastors wife. No matter what she teaches, it will be hard for any woman Christian or not to 'sacrifice' for Jesus Christ. Why? Because she will have women wanting what he has and wanting to be like her. But, not the "Christ-in-her" but the outward. Not sacrifice but affluence. God can use pretty, successful people too. All it takes is a heart for the Lord.
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RE: A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/22/2010 9:32:42 PM
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I didn't download the excerpt, but from what I could tell from the page the link goes to, the book is about dealing with the unrealistic, unbiblical expectations that some congregants have on pastors' wives ... and sadly, sometimes the pastors' wives have on themselves. Elena: I should have directly addressed this. So I will. This little tidbit is from unrepentant or poorly taught Christian women who suppose that either poverty is spirituality or that affluence is spirituality. The Pastor in the pulpit needs to deal with this spirit of hell in a direct manner. Envy or jealous, pride or judgmentalism will keep women on the guard every moment against another woman judging her for some piece of clothing or her hair. The way in which to correct this, is for the pastor to teach clearly and directly that such petty foolish judgments are only carnal exhibitions and they end up harming one another. The Pastor in the pulpit will set women free to enjoy the "cute shoes" they buy or he will ignore the carnal condition of his flock and make room for false-spirituality where women go about doing nothing but sizing each other up only to cut one another down. The scriptures are full of exhortations on godliness and christian conduct and walking in love toward one another. The minister needs to teach the women that God is pleased by faith, not shoes, he is pleased by love and righteousness not dress style or hair. But when women are left to themselves without corrective teaching from the pulpit they will default to the old way of thinking and the worldly way of judging another woman. So, while the women ignore what makes them truly beautiful in God's sight, they major on what doesnt make them beautiful to God but what appeals to their carnal minds in order to be accepted by one another. Elena, Im on a womans side who wants cute shoes, Im just against worldly mindsets that create the need for women to hide them because of other women criticizing them. Im also on a womans side who doesnt want cute shoes and wants that money to go to her giving, missions, love offerings and outreaches. To reinterate, carnal mindsets in women can and should be addressed by the leaders in sermonic form. False spirituality, false humility, legalism that masks itself behind some of these 'judgments' to pastors wives or other women account for the oppression that a woman encounters and I hate it. John
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RE: A Pastor's Wife Can Still Wear Cute Shoes ... - 3/23/2010 11:26:51 AM
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ORIGINAL: Gloryandgrace To reinterate, carnal mindsets in women can and should be addressed by the leaders in sermonic form. False spirituality, false humility, legalism that masks itself behind some of these 'judgments' to pastors wives or other women account for the oppression that a woman encounters and I hate it. John Thank you for addressing this, on behalf of all of us women who volunteer in ministry! I agree -- and I wish more pastors would address this from the pulpit. Right now, it's mostly addressed in resources for women: Bible studies, books of devotions, Christian personal growth books, Christian self-help, and humorous books (as far as the pertinent categories one would find in a Christian bookstore). It's "on us" women, as it stands now, to deal with it in ourselves --- the "fear of man" issue. What is not being done so much (at least, this is how I perceive it) is chastising the people who look down on their sisters in Christ or have unreasonable expectations on Christian women. So... thank you for pointing out the need for male leadership to nip this ugliness in the bud!!
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