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Memaw. -> Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/2/2009 11:54:30 PM)

Now that I have your attention, is there ever an appropriate time to refuse someone praying for you?
If you aren't sure of the person or their beliefs how do you let them know you don't want them praying for you?



CMT8808 -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 12:12:50 AM)

MeMaw~
My honest opinion would be, if you do not know their faith I would not say anything other than thank you, I can use all the prayers I can get.

However if I knew for a fact that they did not believe in Jesus, I would simply state, That's ok, I am on my churche's pray lists or I have friends who are already doing that. May sound rude, but I actually had to say that once.

The person was a coworker who publically procclaimed her faith in 'goddess' yet was allowed to teach S.S. at a baptist church <groan>

Anyhow she offered to pray for me and I declined by simply stating that we do not believe the same, but thanks anyways.

Yet when she was struggling the Lord gave me room to minister to her some and I did pray for her unaware.

So even if you decline the person may still do so

Just my two cents
CMT



cwb -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 1:14:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Memaw.

Now that I have your attention, is there ever an appropriate time to refuse someone praying for you?
If you aren't sure of the person or their beliefs how do you let them know you don't want them praying for you?


Maybe you're thinking they might put a hex upon your house?

Seriously, you can NEVER 'be sure of the person or their beliefs...'

Are you really worried about someone else's concern for you? This seems pretty convoluted here...



Mollymouser -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 1:31:38 AM)

I've visited some churches where total strangers have come up and laid hands on me without my permission ... and I've communicated in no certain terms that I do NOT like to be touched and that they should pray for me, if desired, from across the room.



rgod -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 1:49:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Memaw.

Now that I have your attention, is there ever an appropriate time to refuse someone praying for you?
If you aren't sure of the person or their beliefs how do you let them know you don't want them praying for you?


Personally, if I weren't sure about a person's beliefs, I wouldn't have a problem with them praying for me. But, if I started to feel though that something wasn't right, then I'd just pray and ask the Lord to protect and shield me - and anyone else around - because greater is He that is within me, than He who is in the world. I've done this in other instances - sometimes someone wants to prophesy, but I might not feel right about them. So, I ask the Lord to conceal me - not let them see anything about me - sure enough they either change their minds and skip over me or they start to pray but come up blank - can't get a fix on anything about me.

Basically, anyone can pray for us, we can't stop them. But we don't have to receive it - and the Lord is our shield.



cwb -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 2:15:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Harvie

I've visited some churches where total strangers have come up and laid hands on me without my permission ... and I've communicated in no certain terms that I do NOT like to be touched and that they should pray for me, if desired, from across the room.


That's kind of interesting there.

Jesus might be in attendance, and think how He'd feel if you didn't want Him to touch you...


edit:
thinking on that now, if it IS a Christian church, Jesus IS in attendance, being in the hearts of those who know Him as savior...



Covaan_Meshuga -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 2:23:50 AM)

I would be totally freaked out if some stranger came up and laid hands on me. And I would know if it was Messiah or not!



harbid -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 2:53:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cwb

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ORIGINAL: Harvie

I've visited some churches where total strangers have come up and laid hands on me without my permission ... and I've communicated in no certain terms that I do NOT like to be touched and that they should pray for me, if desired, from across the room.


That's kind of interesting there.

Jesus might be in attendance, and think how He'd feel if you didn't want Him to touch you...


edit:
thinking on that now, if it IS a Christian church, Jesus IS in attendance, being in the hearts of those who know Him as savior...


I'm gonna agree with the others.

Jesus might be in their hearts.....but they are still strangers. I don't see how being in a church makes unwanted physical contact OK. Outside of church it's likely to get you hurt or in trouble with the law.

As for what Jesus might think if I didn't want him to touch me. Hey, it's Jesus I think he'd understand if you just said "sorry man, not my thing" He is the forgiving type after all.



DeliveredDarling -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 7:59:32 AM)

Worrying about another praying for you, gives them more power than you are giving the living God.

If the prayers of a righteous man availeth much, really, what can the prayers of the unrighteous do------not much, God doesn't hear them.



solarflare -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 8:07:05 AM)

This has happened to me and I just back up and tell them politely not to pray for me. I am less afraid of catching the flu then some mysterious 'spiritual' bug. And to those who say not to worry, please read the NT because apparently, this was an issue back then too.



pink.. -> Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 8:07:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Covaan_Meshuga

I would be totally freaked out if some stranger came up and laid hands on me. And I would know if it was Messiah or not!


Yes you certainly would because the Messiah isn't a stranger to you. [:D]



DeliveredDarling -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 8:49:01 AM)

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please read the NT because apparently, this was an issue back then too.


Supporting scripture please. I'll be happy to reconsider my stance.[:)]



roxiesgarden -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 9:03:02 AM)

I don't think it's hurting you.. If someone says I'll pray for you, Politely I hope I would say Thankyou and move on. Who I'm I to judge that person? We don't know their hearts, only God knows.



solarflare -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 9:07:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DeliveredDarling

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please read the NT because apparently, this was an issue back then too.


Supporting scripture please. I'll be happy to reconsider my stance.[:)]



Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure. I Tim. 5:22



aprilshowers12 -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 9:08:11 AM)

When my daughter died in 2000, a lady stopped me in my driveway one day about 6 months later to tell me that she was a friend of a friend of a friend and had been praying for us daily on her walks through the neighborhood. She startled me and it made me cry that she took the time to pray for me and that she stepped out of her comfort zone and approached me during this time. A lot of my friends did not even do this. It did comfort me.

People told us they had called both Christian radio stations in our area and asked to be put on their prayer lists one of them is a Catholic station. I know that there are saved people in every denomination (maybe not in cults or things like that).

Someone that is a friend of my mothers sent a donation to a Carmelite nunnery (I am not sure if this is the correct way to put that) they will pray for Malena and our perpetually. To know that these nuns somewhere far away, I cannot remember where they are, pray for our family by name once a year is NINE years later is powerful because most of our family has forgotten when Malena died.

While each of these things might be considered strange to some, I believe that these prayers were heard by God if these people were children of His and they brought great comfort to me, and my family. If not, the comfort came from knowing someone care enough to try.



KaptZ -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 9:09:57 AM)

I don't think I would refuse any prayers offered by anyone. I would try to take comfort in the thought that they meant well and were offering support in their own way.



solarflare -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 9:12:00 AM)

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While each of these things might be considered strange to some, I believe that these prayers were heard by God if these people were children of His and they brought great comfort to me, and my family. If not, the comfort came from knowing someone care enough to try.


Great post....and I agree....but I think it is a different type of prayer being considered here as per the OP....



poetessfree -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 9:17:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Memaw.

Now that I have your attention, is there ever an appropriate time to refuse someone praying for you?
If you aren't sure of the person or their beliefs how do you let them know you don't want them praying for you?



Well the Bible says, in 1 Tim 5:22
Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure.

I wouldn't want a lot of people laying hands on or praying over me when they may not be spiritually prepared. For instance, once in a conference, a woman was "manifesting" and everybody wanted to pray over her and chant nonsensically(the ones who are not speaking in tongues but think that they are [8|]), one young man started chanting and jumping around and moving his head back & forth and the man of God told him to back away and don't touch her. Whoever is in charge of the conference/gathering/bible study has to have the Spirit upon them especially if they are praying over someone who may have an evil spirit manifesting. The one in charge must discern and use wisdom as to who should touch and who shouldn't. Most times, the Holy Spirit just works and everyone should just back away and let Him work.
As far as just praying, well the individual should have a say as to who they want to pray over them.
Another instance, a young woman from Haiti has some serious issues. She knows this. She was given over to satan as an infant in her homeland and she knows whom she wants to pray for her and who not to. She has discerned that what she is experiencing is not for the weak or half-doubting. And for that, we thank her because it is dangerous to mess with some things that we shouldn't. In fact, our leader said that God told her "leave this alone". So it is left alone, for now.



aprilshowers12 -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 9:22:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: solarflare

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While each of these things might be considered strange to some, I believe that these prayers were heard by God if these people were children of His and they brought great comfort to me, and my family. If not, the comfort came from knowing someone care enough to try.


Great post....and I agree....but I think it is a different type of prayer being considered here as per the OP....


quote:

If you aren't sure of the person or their beliefs how do you let them know you don't want them praying for you?


How is it different? I did not know the the people or all their beliefs. Just a question not trying to debate.

Some I did know their beliefs did not line up to mine ie. the nuns. They do not believe that Malena is in heaven because she was not baptised before she died from what I understand from my Catholic aunt, who is still praying about this. I on the other hand believe in absent from the body present with the Lord. But I believe God hears their prayers.



DeliveredDarling -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 9:26:02 AM)

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Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure. I Tim. 5:22


That's talking about leadership and to not be hasty in "raising" them up, so as to not share in their sins--IOW, make sure of their report.



Memaw. -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 9:56:51 AM)

Thank you for all the replies, I don't have the time right now to really read them all but I will later and respond and give a bit more information about what I am talking about.



poetessfree -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 10:22:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DeliveredDarling

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Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure. I Tim. 5:22


That's talking about leadership and to not be hasty in "raising" them up, so as to not share in their sins--IOW, make sure of their report.



I know that its talking about appointing leaders but I also use it as a warning that we shouldn't be willing to lay our hands on just anyone either. Such as the sons of Sceva who shouldn't have been bothering with the things they know not of by trying to cast out spirits without the LORD's authoritive power working in and through them.



mamajennleigh -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 11:01:31 AM)

I grew up in a church where people were constantly laying hands on one another. I do not like people touching me without my permission (sometimes even with my permission it's weird [&o]) and because my dad was the pastor, I was never allowed to tell them not to touch me.

It was always embarrassing to me when someone would come up to me, lay hands on me and then begin to shake all over or jump around and there I would be, just standing there being shaken or dragged around by the person doing the praying. It really made me feel very uncomfortable, and I always felt pressured to follow whatever shaking/jumping routine they were doing so I didn't look stupid just standing there.

On the flip side of that, I attend a baptist church now and when we dedicated our youngest son, we were standing at the front with the other parents having dedications that day, and there was a lady and her husband who came and prayed for my dh and I (the pastor called for those who "felt led" to come and pray with all the parents). She actually put her arm around me while she prayed and I felt the most sincere, wonderful love come from this woman, and I had never met her before that day! When she was finished praying, she stepped forward to hug me in earnest, and I found myself eager to hug this woman! Maybe there's a difference? I don't really know.

To answer the OP, I don't really try to decide who gets to pray for me. I agree with the poster who said "Greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world". As long as they pray from somewhere outside of my no-touching zone, that is [;)].



Liveloved -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 11:15:07 AM)

Let's put aside our fear. Fear is NOT of God. When we fear the prayers of others, we are believing the enemy's lies.

Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world. I John 4:4

Do we believe this? If so, we need to live as we say.

The scripture of laying on of hands has NOTHING to do with this kind of superstitious impartation of some kind of evil from another. It has everything to do with putting someone into leadership before they have the maturity necessary.

Jesus is ALL powerful! There is NONE greater!

Let's put the lies of the enemy where they belong, under our feet. Don't believe them. Don't repeat them. Don't live as if they are true.



DeliveredDarling -> RE: Do NOT Pray For Me! (11/3/2009 11:17:14 AM)

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Let's put aside our fear. Fear is NOT of God. When we fear the prayers of others, we are believing the enemy's lies.

Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world. I John 4:4

Do we believe this? If so, we need to live as we say.

The scripture of laying on of hands has NOTHING to do with this kind of superstitious impartation of some kind of evil from another. It has everything to do with putting someone into leadership before they have the maturity necessary.

Jesus is ALL powerful! There is NONE greater!

Let's put the lies of the enemy where they belong, under our feet. Don't believe them. Don't repeat them. Don't live as if they are true


Amen! Amen!
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